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WeirdEh
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thanks Alex the voice of reason. will do. I only bolted the lower on because it was there.
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Alex
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Lose the home-made bracket you inherited, and remove the remote housing - you need to start from a known point. It's no good trying to make the engine stay where an unknown bracket tells it to...
With everything detached, do up the dogbone to position the engine correctly. Once the gear linkage is bolted up, you won't need the lower steady or an ultimate one as the remote works much better, so you can ignore the lower one for fitting purposes. With the engine now held in place, offer up the gear linkage and bolt into place.
Once all that's done, you should be able to modify you bracket or make a new one. Metric is for people who can't do fractions.
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Dean2
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I'm out of ideas. Mine is a Cooper type, though I had the AA type in the car at one point. I don't remember it sitting as high as yours at the gearlever, but I could be wrong. I still think your housing looks different than either of mine, though. Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. Charles Kuralt Autox/Rallyx Videos
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partsguy1
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Oh, too long. Disregard my last post then.  It maybe the difference between a round tunnel and square tunnel, the total depth thing. If you're not on the edge............ you're taking up to much space.
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WeirdEh
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the problem is that the dog bone is too long. It is from the mini. if the bolts fit nicely without pressure is there a twist? if I am to get this to fit then I need to move the remote housing further up into the car. but if I move the remote housing up won't that make the lower steady not fit? I could try and cut a notch in the mount or drill a second hole much like the remote tunneled bracket has (which I would guess is for this reason) not sure right now the engine is coming back out anyway to find that tinging noise. :(
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Dean2
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What's the engine number? Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. Charles Kuralt Autox/Rallyx Videos
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Dean2
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Are you using the dogbone from your Mini or did you get one with the new engine? What about the lower one? I just reread everything. In my car, if the gearlever was sitting as high as yours, my dogbone would be TOO SHORT, since I'd have to tip the engine forward to raise up the rear of the remote housing. Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. Charles Kuralt Autox/Rallyx Videos
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partsguy1
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I'll look at it this way, since you have the back end of the remote housing tucked up as tight as you can to the tunnel, you have tilted the engine forward. This may be the reason that the upper Dog Bone won't reach. Your motor mounts have now become the fulcrum point and will be twisted. I think you may need to drop the back end of tunnel down. Terry If you're not on the edge............ you're taking up to much space.
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WeirdEh
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never thought of the twist. the funny part is that they bolted in fine and the lower dog bone fits fine.
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Dean2
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Wouldn't that cause a nasty twist in your motor mounts? Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. Charles Kuralt Autox/Rallyx Videos
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WeirdEh
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no worries Alex. what I will do is modify the dog bone to fit what I have. I should done it the way you did but the neat little bracket that came with the housing looked good. I don't hink it will cause any issues with the engine fitting under the bonnet or driveablity. thank you for your input. as long as I know that Idon't have to order a special dog bone. I did have to modify the rad bracket as the 998 thermo housing is a different pattern then the 1275.
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Alex
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The bracket in the link is a dead-end and utterly useless in this application - it is the proper bracket for a remote change on a remote-tunnelled car. It simply doesn't fit.
When I made my brackets up, I did it the opposite way round to you. I installed the engine and the dogbone, offered up the gearlinkage, enlarged the hole in the floor with a chisel to allow the collar through, attached the linkage and only then worried about the brackets. The coverplate is screwed on with a million self tappers (welding it up seemed a bit permanent, and I can swap between the two gearbox types at will now) but I'll see if I can unscrew it tomorrow and photograph it.
Metric is for people who can't do fractions.
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Dean2
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Looks homemade to me (EDIT: or at least not like the remote bracket in the link above!). Your shifter does sit higher than mine. When I put mine in the first time, I tightened down the motor mounts and installed the dogbone (and ultimate steady) figuring all that put the engine in the same position/attitude as the original with the rod change. Then I found that the standard bracket doesn't fit. It's probably the picture, but your remote housing looks different from both the MG1100 sandwich plate type and Cooper type I have. Need to check Alex's pics in the other thread again... EDIT: Yep, mine both look like Alex's (at that end). ??? Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. Charles Kuralt Autox/Rallyx Videos
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WeirdEh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cup Cake |
I have one of these as well on the bench and not really sure how it attaches to the car.
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WeirdEh
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picture time 
this is the bracket that came with the remote shifter. may be home made. the bolts come down from above. this next one shows how far it comes up into the car. 
the two bolt heads you see near the the park brake lever are the ones holding the remote housing.
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Dean2
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That bracket doesn't fit, as standard, to a rod-change car. It's about an inch too low to bolt up. On mine, the top of the distance piece (#25 on the "gearchange up to 72..." page of the MM catalog) is darned near perfectly level with the tunnel sheet metal. Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything. Charles Kuralt Autox/Rallyx Videos
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Cup Cake
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WeirdEh
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Hey Alex I did cut a hole in the floor. I welded a patch in just about the same as yours. do you have a photo without boot on the top? I will get a pic later today under mine.there was a bracket on the shift tube when I got it. it has two bolts the same width as the rod change standard bracket. the shot from the bottom on yours seems to look the same as mine. (the level of the shift tube to the floor)
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Alex
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http://www.minimania.com/web/threadid/92937/InfoID/1/SiteMessages/25/msgthread.cfm
Read this thread and look at the pictures.
Your dogbone is the right length, you *just* need to cut a hole in the floor... Metric is for people who can't do fractions.
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WeirdEh
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sorry guys not getting the emails that my posts are being responded too. I can't really tell if the gear shift is far enough into the car. It is as far as it will go. will try for a photo later. I may have to pull it out anyway as there is a rattle in the engine when I started it. BTW the dog bone is too long. it is out by less then an inch. I would think if the "tail" of the shifter housing came up into the car about a 1/2 an inch then it would be fine. however the housing is flush with the b ottom of the car now. again pic's would be good if I can.
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