Posted: May-05-2008 04:26PM

Firstly, I'd like to say that I empathize with Aaron as one who tried to be accommodating and got screwed anyway.

Having said that, I think that some of Aaron's problems are of his own making because he made a number of bad decisions.

The important thing here is for a lesson to be learned by anyone needing such a lesson.

1)  don't trust anyone except close and accessible friends for deals of any significance.

2)  ALL terms, such as tire specs, for any exchange or sale should be specified and agreed upon beforehand, not after the exchange has started.

3)  Any part claimed to be "Magged OK" should be tested by the receiver(not the seller) preferably before, but certainly not long after, the trade has commenced. One and one half years is way too long to wait for a mag test.

4) Anyone who knowingly falsifies information or appearance of parts should be roundly condemned as this really crosses the line. 

5) The accused should be allowed to his/her side of the story before any weapons are brought to hand.

Posted: May-05-2008 04:01PM

You have to consider your sources though.

Thanks for the flywheel lock.

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Posted: May-05-2008 02:04PM

http://community.webshots.com/user/66mg1100

Posted: May-05-2008 01:17PM

Ditto.

I have known him on the board and met him once in NoCal at MiniMotors open house and we have talked on the phone once or twice. He doesn't impress me as someone who would wish to get one over someone. At least not in the Mini community, IMHO.

Excrement happen. I know of a few people tha trefuse to sell on MiniMania for the same reason.

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Posted: May-05-2008 01:10PM

Yes, you blighter

I still remember you asking what happened to my "How to fix a mini with a rattel can" website

It's all good

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Posted: May-05-2008 11:24AM

Maybe in order to post at all, a person should be obliged to fill in their profile as no one is obliged to become a member of the forum.  Name calling and BS isn't at all helpful.

Since I know BOBB reasonably well, if he dropped a crank (ouch) he'd say so.  His check of the crank before machining is always the first step...even if it was allegedly tested before.  Went through the same process with a head myself.

When we are disposing of extra parts to members of the board, we all need to take the high road and fairly describe new and used parts to the best of our knowledge.  And, all used items should be fit for use or for limited use as spares.

Mini friends!  Mini rides!

Restored/modified Mini 1000 with 1380cc power unit, 2.95:1 FD, adj. suspension, S discs/drums, 10x5 Minilites, 165x70 A008s, custom trim and matching custom trailer.

Posted: May-05-2008 10:42AM Edited:  May-05-2008 12:05PM

I try to keep all my emails and this is the only one I can find referencing shocks (which happened to be 2003 - five years ago incidentally). I also have the final email where I was informed the items had been recieved, although buyer was disapointed as he assumed he was getting four, not two because he read the advert wrong (25quid for 'barely-used' GAZ shocks plus 10 quid shipping).

Not a lot I can do about not being able to read - the price was also a good clue given a set of GaZ at the time were over 200quids.

You have my email address - it's in my profile. I am still none the wiser re anything else.

Posted: May-05-2008 06:31AM

Hey guys, personal attacks aren't needed here. Take it off line and be honorable about it.

Aaron, you did the right thing to replace what wasn't usable.

You did make the mistake of taking one's word of honor on something that perhaps you should have been more cautious about given the limited knowledge/contact with the individual. You are a person of who gives his word and can be counted on. There's a lot of honorable people on this board, but as such, can be taken to the cleaners by accepting someone elses word too. Just a risk you have to take but you can minimize the risk by taking it to the next level with "untested" individuals. An email specifying the details of the deal would have minimized much of the uncertainty and of course verifying the quality after receipt (especially a high $$ item as such) a must.

I hope this doesn't sound too harsh, I probably would have done the same thing and been pissed too. Monday morning quarterbacking by a non-participant is an easy thing to do.  It is good to know the more "twitchy" traders/sellers/buyers on the board. It might just keep the rest of us honest.   dan

"I don't know much, but what I do know I know little of "

Posted: May-05-2008 06:13AM

"Retired:  No Job, No Money, No Wife!  Will travel anywhere for Minis"

hockey91dad@hotmail.com

Posted: May-05-2008 05:35AM Edited:  May-05-2008 07:33AM

I don't know what parts these are? Perhaps you (or your friend) can remind me? You seem to know a lot about it (and it is clearly still of contention to the invidual given the 'high pedastal' you reference), but I have clearly forgotten what it is.

I've certainly not heard anything in the past years to remind me of it either. I do know that I don't rip folks off, and have a lot of deals. 250+ 100% positive feedback on ebay isn't achieved through ripping folks off either... If I've dropped the ball, well I apologise. But If i don't know the ball has been dropped, I'm a little unsure how I can make any ammends.

Let us know!

ps - I did try sending you an email, but *****N/A***** came up as an invalid email address for some reason??? Perhaps you might like to fill in your own profile?

Posted: May-05-2008 04:56AM

Oh, I don't know. Placing Turbo Dave on such a high pedestal might be a mistake - high pedestals hurt when you fall from them.

I know someone who paid TD for some suspension stuff some 5 years ago and is still waiting for the parts. I don't remember what, shocks maybe?

Posted: May-05-2008 01:24AM

I would agree with Spank as well.  SpeedPilot;  grow a pair and do the right thing.  Cowards and crooks don't get far in this tight knit community.

An example of how things should be handled: 

I bought a 3:1 crown wheel and pinion a year ago from a board member.  I noticed a small chip in one of the gear teeth, and even though the crown wheel looked much better than the 3.44 I was replacing, I had some concerns that there may be a small crack in it.  I posted a question here about what I should do without naming the seller, and included photos of the chip - which was small enough to honestly be missed.  The board member I bought it from replied 2 or 3 posts down, saying that they had missed that chip and offered to give me my money back or pay for a magnaflux job - which they did. The part turned out to be fine, and I greatly appreciated the seller's honesty and the effort they took to fix any issues. Turbo Dave is a stand up guy, and an example of the kind of person who makes the Mini community worth being a part of.  

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. 

"I drive a Mini. What are you compensating for?"

Posted: May-05-2008 01:09AM

I suspect this could get ugly. Once someone has shown their LACK of integrity, and another has shown his PROOF of integrity, a happy result is rarely found.

What's fair? Nothing, it's been too long. What's RIGHT? For both parties to be happy with the result. Revenge won't make you happy, but for all of us to not deal with said poor seller is a close second place.

Mark Looman, Ada Michigan 1967 Austin Cooper S

Posted: May-04-2008 10:38PM

I think I have to side with Bobb and Aaron because they have proven themselves to be of higher moral character and they can spell correctly.

--Spank